Obama abortion and contraception health care coverage rule change is a total scam
This so called compromise does not change a single thing. It’s a late Friday afternoon gimmick, it’s fraud, they are trying to hoodwink and bamboozle you.
From Fox News…
The change would allow religious organizations to refuse to cover contraceptive care. It would also require insurers to offer a plan that does not include contraceptive care in their contracts with nonprofit religious groups. But the insurers would be required to make contraception available free of charge to women anyway.
You can feel good about this Catholics and Christians! You never have to discuss abortion or contraception coverage with your employees and you’ll have plan options that “don’t offer” such coverage. But of course if your employees call us and ask if they have coverage, we’ll let them know they do have coverage and point them in the right direction! Wink wink, nod nod.
I think my head’s going to explode.
This actually just got worse. Now they are trying outright fraud to hoodwink Catholics into thinking they won’t be paying for contraception or abortion services. They plan just to eliminate it from the certificate of coverages (the document specifically defining what is covered), but mandate insurance companies pay for it at the same time!
In the scenario addressed by the Obama administration’s cockamamie “compromise,” religious organization employer (call it “A”) wishes to purchase health insurance from B insurance company for C, its employees, but not cover birth-control services that violate A’s religious principles and that the First Amendment protects A from having to subsidize.
Obama is telling A that it can pay B and that the payments will not cover birth control services for C; he is then telling B to cover the birth-control services for C — but only because A is making the payments. A is thus deceived by Obama’s representations into paying B for C’s birth-control services.
That is fraud. If you tried to pull something like it, federal agents and attorneys would investigate and prosecute you. And if millions of dollars were involved, the sentencing guidelines would dictate many, many years of incarceration.
Uh, so the administration response will be [is to] tell insurers for religious organizations to take on the costs themselves without passing it along to the religious organizations that pay for the policies? I’m not sure that even Chris Matthews will buy that as a “compromise.”
Mark my words… if the Obama administration can’t make this pig fly, the next step will be to try and make contraception and abortion a product and service provided by the federal government. Of course, they will be using federal tax dollars which will result in the same damn problem.
?bama: let’s do anything but the right thing by leaving religion alone.
It is just an incremental attack on protections for unfavored religions, and pushes people towards the socialist, I mean, socialized medicine of ?bamacare.
It certainly is a scam. ?Nothing has changed. ?The insurance companies don’t do ANYTHING for free. ?These costs will be included in the insurance premiums that all employers will be paying, including the Catholic Church. ?Using accounting gimmicks to get around an inconvenient Constitutional freedom is about as slimy as it comes. ?Slime seems to be an Obama quality that can’t be covered up with a toothy smile!
How did abortion get folded into this issue?
Inserted themselves into S. G. Koman..backfired
Ginned up controversy: Obama vs Catholic church…backfired.
What’s the next social wedge issue to be fabricated before the election? Can’t wait.
I see you visited HuffPo for your daily talking points.
The simple fact that most abortions are used as de facto, or is it ex post facto, abortions does the trick.
Ooops!? I meant “ex post facto, CONTRACEPTION…” of course!
Just more of the same,SHAME!
Start making of other private companies our President can order to give away goods or services for FREE!!!? Whee!!!
The term contraceptive health care includes pill, morning after, and abortions.
Since the US Conference of Catholic Bishops has “conditionally” accepted the latest compromise, it does not seem that abortion is an issue. Naturally this blog has a different take on the matter.
This is definitely a scam!? A quick sleight of hand may?fool some but certainly not others.?? One should also wonder why there is?specific push for free birth control and abortifacients–I mean if the Obama administration is sincerely concerned about the potential health risks associated with sensual pleasures, then perhaps people should qualify ?for free Liverite (to cleanse the liver) if they choose to over-indulge in alcoholic beverages?? Free Lipitor should be available to people who choose to indulge in a steady diet of porterhouse steaks and buttery mashed potatoes.? Clearly, the list?could go on and?on.? The focus on birth control and abortifacients is about one of two things (or both)…an attack on religious freedom?(more specifically on the dogma of the Catholic Church) as well as an attempt at population control.? It only makes sense to keep the population numbers down if you plan on funding an individual from cradle to grave.??? Bottom line–Obama, you and your socialist administration need to go.?
And President Obama says that he has?Christian values. I say he is a fake Christian, no matter what his personal views about abortion.???
@ sammy22??????? abortion was made an issue to distract us from “The rest of the story”.
To force people to buy health care or be penalized (Obamacare) is unconstitutional.
To force the church to change its faith is unconstitutional and arrogant.? And that when women’s health care is already available elswhere and with no complaints.
Both break the oath of office to support and defend the Constitution.
And to renege on a deal made with a major religion to boot !? How do the other exempted folks feel right about now?
And pitting?women’s reproductive rights against a church’s value system – despicable.
Then to mandate that insurer’s GIVE this stuff out free, without previous discussions.
I hope the media is starting to realize that they will be thrown under the bus with the rest of us pretty soon.
It is now obvious that none of this is good for America.?
Everyone should be able to see?that this guy has no respect for anyone or any institution.??
And not many in DC seem to care.???
And for the government now to “allow religious organizations to refuse to cover contraceptive care.”? As if the organizations needed gov’t approval and never had a set of values before that”.? – Ego and arrogance beyond belief…
And I think this is one of those times that you can agree that?Steve’s blog is right on the money.?
We could have had a better “conversation” about the issue if abortion was not mixed in. The Bishops did not bring it up, why is it here?
Shouldn’t have ?bama had a conversation with the public before foisting it on us??? The only “conversations” that the ?bama administration has had with anyone is the “conversation” ? had with the arch bishop, Timothy Dolan, from NY who said that all the promises and assurances he was given at a private audience with ? were just so much hot air, and he felt “betrayed” by ?bama.
Ummm, gee, ya think maybe he looks at the public opinion polls??
Majority feel that “Secular” institutions run by Catholics should not be exempt from offering women the same health care as in any other “secular” institution.
BTW< there was a separate poll of just catholics..same result.
You keep laboring under the misconception that taking federal money makes you a “secular” institution.? In that case, paying taxes should do likewise.? Polls are irrelevant; the tenets of the religion are inviolate according to the First Amendment.
Catholic institutions aren’t secular just because Obama Nazis make the claim over and over.
Let’s cut to the chase: ?bama himself is a total scam.