New York: Penalties for large capacity magazines redux

Since my original post on the subject was long, corrected and updated multiple times – confusing even me – I needed to write a shorter post to clarify. I made a solid effort to update the orignal, but here’s the needed follow up.

Note: I’m not a lawyer, so if you have questions ask a lawyer. Don’t ask a politician, blogger, journalist or anyone in law enforcement.

§ 265.36 effective March 16, 2013 makes possession of the large capacity magazines (more than 10 rounds) that were previously lawfully owned prior to the 1994 ban a Class A Misdemeanor. There may be some sort of grace period involved, but after you are informed, you need to turn it in or sell it to someone out-of-state within 30 days.

§ 265.37 is also effective March 16. This deals with magazines that have a capacity of more than seven rounds, but less than 11 rounds. Depending on where you are (home or outside the home) and the number of offenses, breaking this law by having more than seven rounds in the magazine can be a fine, Class B Misdemeanor or Class A Misdemeanor.

sig-p229-roundsThat said, § 265.02 – Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree which is a Class D Violent Felonystill applies and has been updated to clarify the eight, nine and 10 round magazines do not meet the definition of large capacity magazine affected by § 265.02. This law applies to those in possession of large capacity magazines with 11 or more rounds that were not part of the pre-ban 1994 magazines dealt with in § 265.36. The image I have to the right in this post is correct. If you own a P229 with a 10 round magazine, downloaded to seven rounds you will be legal. If you have the same gun with a standard 13 round magazine that was not grandfathered in 1994, you’re subject to a Class D Violent Felony charge. New Yorkers should not have been able to buy that 13-rounder, but if you purchased it elsewhere and brought it in, you’d be in violation.

Now, on to a sample of laws that are Class D Violent Felonies, which New York equates to having a 13-round magazine filled to capacity, or that same 13-round magazine downloaded to 11 rounds. This is the lede of the story here, and shows the stupidity of the laws. Again, I’m convinced they continue to identify ownership of large capacity magazines as a felony so people charged will be tempted to plea to a misdemeanor instead of going to court. They don’t want a Supreme Court test case.

  • Rape in the Second Degree – § 130.30
  • Course of sexual conduct against a child in the second degree – § 130.80
  • Reckless assault of a child – § 120.02
  • Aggravated sexual abuse in the third degree – § 130.66

These are samples of Class D Felonies. (One step below Class D Violent)

  • Promoting an obscene sexual performance by a child – § 263.10
  • Promoting a sexual performance by a child – § 263.15
  • Reckless endangerment in the first degree – § 120.25
  • Vehicular manslaughter in the second degree – § 125.12

These are samples of Class E Violent Felonies. (One step below Class D)

These are samples of Class E Felonies. (One step below Class E Violent)

  • Luring a child – § 120.70
  • Use of a child to commit a controlled substance offense- § 220.28
  • Possessing an obscene sexual performance by a child – § 263.11
  • Possessing a sexual performance by a child – § 263.16


3 replies
  1. JBS
    JBS says:

    Leave it to the Democrats to make a mess of things.
    Who was it going on about ex post facto laws. We got a bunch right here in NY.
    Example time:
    Bad guy breaks into my house, splinters the door and threatens my wife and kids with a club and a knife. I retrieve my pistol and confront the criminal. He lunges at me and makes forceful contact with the club and also cuts me. Meanwhile, I’m trying to talk to the 911 dispatcher. I command the criminal to lie on the floor. He refuses and swipes the knife at my wife and kids. Panicked, I shoot him once to stop his rampage.
    My pistol has its stock 15-round magazine. I get arrested for having an illegal magazine.
    Am I right so far?
    The criminal gets released and hires a lawyer to sue me because he was shot with a pistol with an illegal magazine. (Sounds like England . . . Piers’ Revenge )

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