Marines at Navy Yard have access to firearms, but no ammunition
Let’s see where this goes if anywhere. The Media Research Channel – certainly a right-of-center outfit – interviewed a man today who claims his son is a Marine based at the Navy Yard, and at the time of the shooting they had firearms, but no ammunition.
There seemed to be a select few security folks staffed at the Navy Yard who engaged the shooter, and some District cops as well. We all know the government does not allow firearms to be carried on any military base unless a service member is specifically attached to a law enforcement roll. This is nothing new. Others that carry on base are local or state law enforcement.
In this video, a man claimed his son – who is probably very well trained in engaging hostiles in the open and in close quarters – had access to firearms, but no ammunition to take on the shooter. This seems entirely plausible, and maybe it’s about time they start reviewing the policy about carrying on military bases. We’ve had two very serious incidents resulting in the death of 25 people and many injured on military bases within four years. I remind you, neither shooter at either base used a rifle during the shooting.
Quote from the video…
My son was at Marine barracks – at the Navy Yard yesterday – and they had weapons with them, but they didn’t have ammunition. And they said, we [they] were trained, and if we had the ammunition, we could have cleared that building. Only three people had been shot at that time, and they could’ve stopped the rest of it.
10 Comments
The website's content and articles were migrated to a new framework in October 2023. You may see [shortcodes in brackets] that do not make any sense. Please ignore that stuff. We may fix it at some point, but we do not have the time now.
You'll also note comments migrated over may have misplaced question marks and missing spaces. All comments were migrated, but trackbacks may not show.
The site is not broken.
I want to know who gave up their guns to him,no Marine would-he’d die first.
When I was in, possessing live ammunition in base was punishable. MPs, duty officers, and CID were the only ones who I knew regularly had ready ammo. While a lot of people kept some, the access to firearms varied. I was an armorer and had dozens of handguns and many more rifles (yeah, and the heavier stuff, too) but having live ammo in the armory was a one-way ticket to perpetual KP. (I was in Germany, btw.)
The military attitude towards loaded guns was–is schizophrenic.
?
Just like the rest of us….
I was an armorer for a short time in Nam at Long Bhin & we had all weapons & ammo secured except for those who were taking them & going off post for any reason. No one carried while doing on post duties except for guards,perimeter people & the gates. But there were plenty of those.
I have heard that it was the Clinton Administration that prohibited the use of weapons on the bases. Of course I don’t know who to believe to verify this.
I started in ’68. Then, it was a hard rule. No one wanted to get caught breaking it. I think it was basically the military doesn’t trust its own people. (?)
Still that way today?
?
Maybe Clinton codified it with an EO?
?
Weapons with ammunition withheld – a metaphor for the US today.
Ammunition isn’t needed because guns kill people.
The ongoing toll of rediculous “Rules of engagement”.
241 dead – 1983, Beirut bombing. Rule: carry?ammo and an unloaded?firearm.
17 dead, 37 wounded Oct 12 ,2000 USS Cole suicide attack. Rule: Do not engage.?
??? and climbing, V. Tech, Sandy Hook, Ft. Hood Navy Yard U.S.A..? Rule: When gun laws don’t work, make Americans more vulnerable with more gun laws.
The sad fact is that any gun laws are just way-points to the liberal’s cherished dream of totally banning all guns and removing them from everyone. (Except them)
?
Somehow, they reason that Utopia would be reached and there would be no more violence. LOL
They also in the same breath reserve a lot of guns to protect themselves. After all, what important person doesn’t have bodyguards??
And they are important!! and privileged!! and worth it!! it’s their right!!!