Closing Camp Delta, Guantanamo Bay – without a plan

Today, President Obama signed an Executive Order to delay a decision his administration will soon need to make. By signing the order within the first 48 hours of his presidency, he throws a bone to the liberal left, placates them with a quick salvo fired at Bush, and kicks the can down the road.

The can is going to soon roll back down the hill, and he does not seem to have a plan.

The order references the Geneva Conventions, but as we all know terrorists are not a signatory to the Conventions and they – quite frankly – use the rules against us. That policy is chapter one of the Terrorist 101 syllabus.

I quote from the order

In view of the significant concerns raised by these detentions, both within the United States and internationally, prompt and appropriate disposition of the individuals currently detained at Guantánamo and closure of the facilities in which they are detained would further the national security and foreign policy interests of the United States and the interests of justice.

Does this say that releasing terrorists – who have fought and plotted against us and deemed the Geneva Conventions irrelevant – would improve our national security?

The paragraph continues.

Merely closing the facilities without promptly determining the appropriate disposition of the individuals detained would not adequately serve those interests. To the extent practicable, the prompt and appropriate disposition of the individuals detained at Guantánamo should precede the closure of the detention facilities at Guantánamo.

Obama has released this Executive Order without a plan. There is no explanation of what will happen with the Gitmo terrorists.

A couple of notes before sharing a few paragraphs from a novel I recently read. This Executive Order only deals with detainees in Guantanamo Bay, it does not discuss other locations where terrorists may be held. In section 8…

Nothing in this order shall prejudice the authority of the Secretary of Defense to determine the disposition of any detainees not covered by this order.

Wink wink … there is more!

If any individuals covered by this order remain in detention at Guantánamo at the time of closure of those detention facilities, they shall be returned to their home country, released, transferred to a third country, or transferred to another United States detention facility in a manner consistent with law and the national security and foreign policy interests of the United States.

Can someone say symbolism over substance? This paragraph seems to indicate an option would be to transfer the prisoners to another detention facility, possibly outside of the United States!

Others discussing include Hot Air, Gateway PunditPower Line, Volokh Conspiracy, Sister Toldjah (with a new blog theme by the way) and LGF.

The following is from the Vince Flynn novel Extreme Measures. On page 271, this is a snippet of a discussion between two characters, Ralph Wasson and Senator Barbara Lonsdale. I’ll let it stand without commentary.

[Wasson] “… You ask the people if they are pro-torture, and ninety plus percent say no. You then ask them what the CIA should do if they catch a senior al-Qaeda member who has carried out attacks in Afghanistan and Iraq that have killed thousands. You then tell them that the CIA has solid information an attack is looming and this man has information that could help stop it. You then ask them if they are okay with slapping this guy around and making him think he’s about to drown and all of a sudden seventy percent of them are pro-torture.

“Now” – Wassen wagged a finger at his boss – “I can get that number to over ninety percent if you give the people a third option.”

“What’s that?”

“Don’t tell me what’s going on. Just take care of it. I don’t need to know everything my government does.”

“So the options are torture, don’t torture, or stick you head in the sand.”


“That’s ridiculous.”

“That’s reality, Babs.”

We need a National Terrorist Offender Registry

We’re finding out some information concerning the recidivism rate of terrorists who have been released from Guantanamo Bay. Some – not the majority – seem to be going back to the fight. With that knowledge in hand I’d like to suggest a National Terrorist Offender Registry.

Welcome Michelle Malkin readers!

terrorist-registryWe could make them register with local authorities when they move into town, and have a cool Google map that displays where they live, their photo and what they were convicted of.

Hmm… they may elect to live out of the country, so maybe we could make it a world-wide registry…

The Obama administration is planning to close the Guantanamo detention center soon after arrival in the White House so we’ll need to move quickly to make this law.

Word from the Pentagon is that more than one in 10 released detainees go back to their old ways – you know – terrorizing people and fighting the jihad.

Pentagon: 61 ex-Guantanamo inmates return to terrorism
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Pentagon said on Tuesday that 61 former detainees from its military prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody.

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said 18 former detainees are confirmed as “returning to the fight” and 43 are suspected of having done in a report issued late in December by the Defense Intelligence Agency.

Morrell declined to provide details such as the identity of the former detainees, why and where they were released or what actions they have taken since leaving U.S. custody.

“This is acts of terrorism. It could be Iraq, Afghanistan, it could be acts of terrorism around the world,” he told reporters.

Morrell said the latest figures, current through December 24, showed an 11 percent recidivism rate, up from 7 percent in a March 2008 report that counted 37 former detainees as suspected or confirmed active militants.

Granted, these are Pentagon figures and no details as to how the recidivism rate was calculated. But when the American judicial system has someone in custody and they are released to create another crime, people get pretty mad.

Hence, the Terrorist Offender Registry. Many states already have sex offender registries, all we would need is another table in the database.

Hat tip to Geller over at Atlas Shrugs.

Update: Sister Toldjah, Malkin, Gateway Pundit and Scott at Power Line all discussing.

Obama is planning to start closing up shop on the first day of his presidency, but with almost 250 prisoners, it’s going to take some time – some figure more than a year – to complete the process.

Photo Credit: Home page photo courtesy casmaron.
Amnesty International demonstrates in front of the US Embassy in London on 11 January 2007 for the closure of the US detention centre at Guantanamo Bay.

Obligatory link to Hamas firing from UN school video

What do you do? What do you do when your sworn enemies use school grounds, hospitals and mosques as bases to target you from?

Terrorists avoid uniforms and favor blending in with the civilian population to cause a hesitation in the response time, and – if attacked – use retaliatory action as propaganda. They do not just terrorize their sworn enemies, they terrorize the people the live with every day.

They oppress those who can not fight for themselves all along stating they are fighting for their freedom. Hogwash.

That said, I’d like to suggest that the United States, Israel and and any other country who would like to join us formally withdraw from all four treaties Geneva Conventions. The treaties certainly are not protecting the United States or our allies, and on numerous occiasons terrorist symphathisers have had the gaul to throw the Conventions in our face, demanding that we abide by protocols that terrorists use against us.

What do you think? Let us know in the comments section.

To be completely up front, this video is from October of 2007 probably from one of those drones that fly overwatch throughout Israel and the territories.

Atlas Shrugs, Hot Air and Malkin have more.

Gateway Pundit has the report of two Hamas terrorist bodies being found at the school today.

LGF notes that one terrorist had strong ties to a UN school in Gaza last spring.

Here is a short official statement from the Israeli government concerning the bombing today at the UN school that looks to have doubled as a weapons cache.


Followed here by the drone (or an other aircraft’s) video from Oct. 2007.


“I only wish I had a gun rather than a camera.”

These are the words of Sebastian D’Souza, a picture editor at the Mumbai Mirror, who ran towards the Chhatrapati Shivajo train station in Mumbai when he heard gunfire on Wednesday. D’Souza took one of the most popular photographs – with a telephoto lens – of one of the terrorists as he calmly walked through the rail station.

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Ask Obama – does evil exist?

When a conversation begins concerning terrorists, sit back and listen for a few moments. As smart conservatives, it’s hard to avoid jumping right into a discussion and taking a stand, but hold out if you can.

What can be an effective first question? How about does evil exist? The answer from the group members will dictate the flow of the conversation. So Senator Obama, does evil exist? Read more

Let’s Look Back: Operational Links Between Iraq and al-Qaida

The Houston Chronical’s Study, Iraq had no link to al-Qaida, confirms information that we already knew; there was not an operational link between Iraq and al-Qaida. But what about informal links to al-Qiada and direct links to other terrorist organizations? Hot Air’s post Saddam had “no operational ties” to AQ: Pentagon, got me into a research mode this afternoon.

During the days after Sept. 11, 2001 there was quite a ruckus going on in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Within days, thousands of Afghans began to flee Kabul. Since the Taliban was enthusiastically supporting al-Qaida, and al-Qaida recently attacked the United States, it was time to get out of Dodge. Read more