I’m having trouble with the “proportional response” doctrine, and Juan Williams “scoring” the war at 130+ Hamas dead verses five Israeli dead is not helping. If a group of 100 terrorists or crack-heads tried to invade a well-armed gated community here in the United States and they were all killed by residents who suffered one casualty, would the residents be chastised for “overkill?”
The leader of the Hamas militant training programs in Gaza has been driving around in a civilian vehicle with “TV” imprinted on the hood. The dirty trick – making things even more dangerous for real journalists – didn’t work, and Israel targeted the goon anyway.
Since the Fatah political party officially tied itself to the Hamas terrorist organization to form a Palestinian government about one year ago, Republicans and some Democrats in Congress asked that taxpayer funding of the newly formed, terrorist-infused government be stopped.
It’s amusing President Obama won’t release a statement concerning the Gaza flotilla “peace” activist’s attack on the Israeli defense forces, while he had no problem at all stating the Cambridge Police Department acted stupidly last summer.
Israeli President Shimon Peres believes a two state solution, Israel and Palestine, is the only realistic solution but he isn’t biting on a Hamas proposal to roll back Israel’s borders to the pre 1967 war map first. From Hot Air, which links to the NY Times story.
The leader of the militant Palestinian group Hamas said Monday that its fighters had stopped firing rockets at Israel for now. He also reached out in a limited way to the Obama administration and others in the West, saying the movement was seeking a state only in the areas Israel won in 1967.
His reasons are pretty simple, it may sound good, but in reality nothing has changed.
This is worth listening too because sometimes we in America view this conflict in, well, from an American perspective. Too often we fail to realize the role religion plays in this, and in a country where religion plays an ever smaller role, especially among the intellectual elite, it’s understandable.
As for the Hamas proposal, Hot Air has a very good rundown.
Hamas wants an extremist makeover. Khaled Meshal, who just won another four-year term as Hamas’ head terrorist, gave his first interview to an American media outlet in a year, and tells the New York Times that Hamas has changed. Not enough to actuallychange, of course, but just trust them when they say they’re no longer annihilationist:
Peres understands, Hamas is what Hamas is until it demonstrates otherwise, and a temporary halt in rockets is not enough to change Israel’s mind, nor should it. Religious people have no clock, they have eternity.
If you are willing to talk – which means negotiation – with terrorists, how do you start the conversation? Remember the Hamas charter is quite specific about it’s position on an Israeli state, it should not exist. If the Obama administration wants to negotiate, will Hamas be required to first ditch the language in their own charter?
That would be a precondition.
Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it. …
The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying.
Hamas boobytraps civilian homes, boobytrap dolls, fire missiles from schools, use mosques as arsenals, and fire machine guns into a party of Gazan revelers playing music and Obambi is going to talk to these blood hungry neanderthals? Strap yourself in folks …… this lefty maroon is going to get our asses kicked. Big time.
When Obambi was silent on Israel’s self defense I thought it was a low, lefty way to play it. He waited. He waited until he erroneously thought Israel had fired on a school. Only then did the snake slither out with a statement about “the loss of civilian life in Gaza and in Israel being a source of deep concern” for him .[note Gaza first] The thing is, it was Hamas that bombed that school – and Hamas only targets civilian Jews. Jews out their own lives at risk to avoid civilian casualties. Did Obambi address that?
She’s reacting to this article in the UK Guardian.
Obama camp ‘prepared to talk to Hamas’
Incoming administration will abandon Bush’s isolation of Islamist group to initiate low-level diplomacy, say transition sources
The incoming Obama administration is prepared to abandon George Bush’s doctrine of isolating Hamas by establishing a channel to the Islamist organisation, sources close to the transition team say.
The move to open contacts with Hamas, which could be initiated through the US intelligence services, would represent a definitive break with the Bush presidency’s ostracising of the group. The state department has designated Hamas a terrorist organisation, and in 2006 Congress passed a law banning US financial aid to the group.
The Guardian has spoken to three people with knowledge of the discussions in the Obama camp. There is no talk of Obama approving direct diplomatic negotiations with Hamas early on, but he is being urged by advisers to initiate low-level or clandestine approaches, and there is growing recognition in Washington that the policy of ostracising Hamas is counter-productive. A tested course would be to start contacts through Hamas and the US intelligence services, similar to the secret process through which the US engaged with the PLO in the 1970s. Israel did not become aware of the contacts until much later.
“This is going to be an administration that is committed to negotiating with critical parties on critical issues,” the source said.
You have to ask the question. Why bother sitting down – and starting even low-level negotiations – with a group that has so clearly laid out their position?
Allah over at Hot Air has more, and notes the clear distinction between Obama’s statements in April 2008 and the report – from three different sources – that low level talks will be initiated.
Gateway Pundit is thrilled too.
You can not negotiate with evil, and you’re not going to get evil to sit down for an anger management session with Dr. Phil either.
In France yesterday, France 2 – a public national television network – aired footage they indicated was shot the morning of Jan. 1 after an Israeli bombing raid. Unfortunatley for France 2, the report – surprise, surprise – is fake.
So, is there a mole in France 2 that has ties to the terrorist organization Hamas? Maybe a sympathizer? Ya gotta ask the question. I guess this is my first example of Europe’s drive by media.
The footage aired on Channel 2 on Tuesday afternoon showed dozens of dead bodies, including Hamas gunmen and citizens, which the channel said were killed by an IAF bombing raid on January 1st. It later came to light that the channel had instead aired footage of the devastation caused after a truck full of explosives blew up in the Jabaliya Refugee Camp.
Yup, the guys – terrorists – blew themselves up while moving through a refugee camp. Just their style.
Just think how much crap environmental organizations give the military when they want to move ordinance around the United States.
And are they meeting with them now? Hinderaker at Power Line Blog just posted reference to a story published yesterday in Al-Hayat, a London-based Arabic-language newspaper. The report indicates that a secret meeting was held between Obama advisers and Dr. Ahmad Yousef, a political adviser to the prime minister of the Hamas-led government. Other discussions happened online via the Internet.