New Haven Mayor: Give illegal aliens right to vote in city elections

How does one respond to such a suggestion? New Haven, Connecticut Mayor John DeStefano (D) is asking the state to allow their city to include illegal alien votes in municipal elections. New Haven is notably a sanctuary city for illegal aliens, as they are welcomed by the mayor and provided ID cards to illegals starting in the summer of 2007 using a private grant.

It’s important to note New Haven is not a trendsetter here, as other cities have done the same thing. From the New Haven Register.

New Haven is taking its immigrant-friendly approach one step further and has proposed allowing non-citizen residents, including those who are undocumented, to vote in municipal elections.

The proposal is part of a package it will submit to state lawmakers for the session that starts in February. …

Six municipalities in Maryland permit resident, including non citizens, voting in local elections, including Takoma Park, Barnesville, Martin’s Additions, Somerset, Garrett Park, and Chevy Chase. Takoma Park did this in 1992, a decision that has stayed on the books despite efforts early on to repeal it.

Chicago is an example of a city that allows all residents, regardless of legal status, to vote on school issues.

DeStefano said this week he ran into a couple residing in Westville who attended a discussion on the city’s revaluation. They are not citizens and kiddingly pointed out that the United States is where taxation without representation was settled long ago, but not for them.

The mayor said non-citizens are stereotypically thought of as coming from south of the border, but immigrants in the city are is more diverse than that.

Funny they pulled the “taxation without representation” card is it not?

It does not matter where they are from. They elected to come here illegally and not play by the rules. Why should they get any benefits at all? I have friends who have spent thousands of dollars, completed a lot of paperwork, and went through numerous interviews so they could live and work in the United States legally. All of them want to become American citizens. What signal does that broadcast to those immigrants who want to come to, and become Americans?

DeStefano’s argument is that the illegal aliens pay taxes, and such should have a say in the operations and budget of the city. Well, what if they also pay state and federal income taxes? Is that a good enough reason for them to vote in state and national elections too? Must be, using DeStefano’s logic.

Update: Tina Korbe over at Hot Air picked up on this gem of a story tonight.

At some point, we will have to revisit the quota system and the process to become a citizen of this country, in general. We will have to ask ourselves seriously what the meaning of United States citizenship really is — and what it takes to earn it.

But that would be raaaccccist Tina!

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  1. Dimsdale on December 14, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Welcome to the Bizarro World of Democrats!? Here’s a question (which I considered making a post):
    Why was Arizona persecuted/prosecuted for ENFORCING the law, to the point that the state has to take the issue to the Supreme Court, while scofflaw cities like New Haven are allowed carte blance to break the law as they please, with no threat of the feds coming after them?
    Is this the “hope and change” we heard so much about?? Or just the “audacity of a dope”?

  2. joe_m on December 14, 2011 at 10:46 am

    New Haven is now the murder capital of the US and he want illegals to vote.

    Anyone wonder if the murder rate has anything to do with laws not being taken seriously by your elected officials?

    Congratulations New Haven, you elected him as mayor

  3. phil on December 14, 2011 at 11:07 am

    My goodness!

  4. Murphy on December 14, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Arrest DeStefano for aiding and abetting and accessory after the fact.

    • Dimsdale on December 14, 2011 at 1:33 pm

      If positive voter ID is being fought so strongly by the Dems, if they are this afraid of it, you can be sure it will work.
      Rush noted today that internal unions require positive ID.? At least until they stop the secret ballot….

  5. Jeff S on December 14, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    I guess he’s looking to secure a lifetime job.

  6. RoBrDona on December 14, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    Maybe I’m stupid, but if you are not legally domiciled in a community how can you vote at all? The Supremes have established the fundamental right to be exercised by the states, but that is it. The main federal culprit in all of this is the US Commission on Civil Rights which is allowed almost exclusive domain to update and control legislation. Under cover of the Voting Rights Act (last updated in ’82), I know the ACLU views any attempt to understand or classify a voter as “voter suppression”. Any form of voter ID’s are considered racist and cruel as they disenfranchise the “newly arrived”.? I would posit that after the general election of an African American, that this practice cease, and a general discussion of who an American citizen actually is begin.

    • Dimsdale on December 14, 2011 at 4:08 pm

      You might as well ask how the dead manage to vote for Democrats….

    • Murphy on December 15, 2011 at 8:52 am

      It’s simple Dim, “When a person dies and is buried, it seems there’s certain voodoo priests who have the power to bring him back to life. “

  7. Plainvillian on December 14, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Democrats – putting the fun in another dysfunctional city.

    • JBS on December 14, 2011 at 7:54 pm

      Dysfunctional? I like it!

  8. teeoff55 on December 14, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    Here’s a?disturbing?thought..?
    The Mayor wants to give those who came here ILLEGALLY, meaning those who violated the LAWS of the United States of America, the right to participate in elections so they can vote for the LAWMAKERS they feel won’t pass or enforce LAWS that will punish the LAWBREAKERS for breaking our LAWS!
    Oh My Goodness Indeed!??

    • Dimsdale on December 14, 2011 at 6:44 pm

      Come full circle: for aiding and abetting the illegals, the Mayor is a lawbreaker himself.
      Birds of a feather….

    • phil on December 15, 2011 at 10:29 am

      …hang together.? (One can only hope!)

  9. JBS on December 14, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    This is just another mechanism of the Democrat party to fill its voter ranks with more Democrat voters. They have to pad their voter base in order to stay in power and disburse the treasury. Targeted for inclusion into the Democrat ranks are the illegals. When given the opportunity to legally(?) take part in the functioning of a city AND be given government issued documents attesting to their legality, they jump at the opportunity! And, who are the illegals beholding to? You got it, the Democrat machine. “You got your legal ID papers from us; you’ll know how to vote when the time comes!”
    Votes from the dead is so old. Voting early and often, a la Chicago or Waterbury, still works, but change the laws and have live voters in front of poll officials and they are loath to turn them away.
    What kind of devious person thinks up these schemes? A Democrat.

    • JBS on December 14, 2011 at 7:57 pm

      Not to mention the likelihood of increased funding to the DNC and its ancillary organizations from grateful newly-minted voters.

      Always have to follow the money . . .

    • rinman246 on December 17, 2011 at 8:44 am

      The very sad thing is everyone knows this is the case and according to polls over 40% of the country support it.

    • Dimsdale on December 17, 2011 at 11:15 am

      I wonder what percentage of that is from the “motor voter law”, yet another Democrat scheme to scrounge up votes that would normally be illegal.? Or certainly (and very publicly, thanks to the left wing media) illegal if a Republican did it…

  10. JBS on December 14, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    ?bama in addressing troops disengaging from Iraq left the impression that HE was ending the Iraq War.
    NOTHING could be further from the truth. The American military LOST its immunity from crimes against the Iraqi people and law. While we did pay for the result of military actions against some people, individual service members, while legally performing their duties inside of Iraq, were exempt from Iraqi law.
    After the Iraqi legislature voted to strip immunity from service members, the American mission to Iraq was effectively dis-invited. Hence, necessitating the troop withdrawal. Of which ?bama seems quite willing for the uninformed to attribute to his brilliance and take the credit.
    Never the full story with ?bama! It does fit the narrative.

  11. Erik Blazynski on December 14, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    He’ll be mayor for life if he can get that through.

    • essneff on December 14, 2011 at 10:43 pm

      he already is…….. after his latest?win in November, he will have held the office for 20 years…….. under this circus clown’s “leadership”, New Haven is rated as the 4th?worst city in the country for crime…..?32 murders in 2011 BUT, they still re-elect him over and over……????

    • ricbee on December 14, 2011 at 11:04 pm

      New Haven like Hartford must have passed the tipping point; where his employees & welfare recipients out number honest citizens.

  12. sammy22 on December 14, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Left out the discussion, but mentioned in the post, are the legal immigrants who are still foreign nationals residing in the US. Do they have any voice even in municipal elections? When they own property they also pay taxes.

    • crystal4 on December 15, 2011 at 7:51 am

      Sammy, if you own property in a town, you are able to vote in any referendums. They look you up in the grand list they have available at the polls.

    • Dimsdale on December 15, 2011 at 8:44 am

      Do you mean those with dual citizenship?

    • crystal4 on December 15, 2011 at 8:54 am

      No, just have any property in your name, real estate.

  13. ricbee on December 14, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    I met him when he was running for Governor & found him forthright & intelligent,how he could even suggest this is mind boggling. Like most of our politicians I guess the rule of law means nothing to him. He thinks we are run by elite whims.

  14. winnie on December 15, 2011 at 3:05 am

    I can’t think of any reason to go to New Haven.? Sanctuary city now considered murder capital of US…I don’t care how much “culture” they have there nor do I care about the awesomely awesome restaurants.? I won’t support a city or that city’s businesses when they support illegal immigration.?
    If you’re going to come here *ILLEGALLY* and then make money off of tax paying *LEGAL CITIZENS* you can bet your a** that it’s *FAIR* that you pay taxes on it.? You gave up the *RIGHT* to vote in any election (local, state, federal) when you broke the *LAW* to come and squat in our country.? C’mon, it’s not like illegals don’t know where these sanctuary cities are…New Haven is a beacon of hope for those who can’t be bothered to follow our immigration laws. And if our own democrat controlled government can’t be bothered with enforcing immigration law, please tell me, who is to blame?

    • JBS on December 15, 2011 at 7:01 am

      I lived there 15 years and escaped . . . growing, palpable fear of a steadily rising incidence of muggings, burglaries, assaults, especially ethnic and gang murders and resulting collateral civilian damage . . . metastasizing into the neighboring towns? . . . the police, ha, many bad apples there. No, New Haven is NOT the place for a tourist.
      Sanctuary city for whom?

    • Dimsdale on December 15, 2011 at 8:56 am

      It’s odd, but all of the liberal utopias solely controlled by Democrats never seem “utopian” in any way.?? Unless you are a criminal.? And I include illegals in that definition.
      Maybe that is why they want illegals and felons to be able to vote (more than once if possible)!?? It surely wouldn’t be to help Republicans!

  15. gillie28 on December 15, 2011 at 4:04 am

    All that time and energy I wasted by becoming a citizen legally, when I could have just moved to New Haven :)…oh, wait, too dangerous a place to live.

    • winnie on December 15, 2011 at 5:14 am

      gillie, certainly *not* time & energy wasted.? we are pleased to have you as a *LEGAL* US citizen. 🙂

    • Lynn on December 15, 2011 at 8:14 am

      I second that… Welcome Gillie

    • JBS on December 15, 2011 at 8:25 am

      The legal way means never having to look over your shoulder.

    • Dimsdale on December 15, 2011 at 8:57 am

      Like Howie Carr says: “I just want to be treated like an illegal alien!!”

  16. gillie28 on December 15, 2011 at 9:08 am

    thanks, and dims: lol (guess you haven’t all read my romney comments yet 🙂 🙂 🙂

  17. Don Lombardo on December 15, 2011 at 11:27 am

    This guy keeps getting re-elected because illegals have been voting for years in New Haven.

  18. NH-Jim on December 15, 2011 at 11:43 am

    I have an issue with the lack of statistical information that supposedly supports Mayor DeStefano’s argument.? How many illegals are actual property owners in ratio to those that only rent a residence?? (How do they get a mortgage without documentation?)

    • NH-Jim on December 15, 2011 at 11:45 am

      Mayor DeStefano stated that the US Constitution applies only to federal elections and each state regulates its internal elections.
      But, let’s look at the State of CT Constitution:
      Art. 6, SEC. 1.? Every CITIZEN of the United States who has attained the age of twenty-one years, who has resided in the town in which he offers himself to be admitted to the privileges of an elector at least six months next preceding the time he so offers himself, who is able to read in the English language any article of the constitution or any section of the statutes of the state, and who sustains a good moral character, shall, on his taking such oath as may be prescribed by law, be an elector.

    • NH-Jim on December 15, 2011 at 11:51 am

      Art. IX of Amendments:
      Section 1 of article sixth of the constitution is amended to read as follows: Every CITIZEN of the United States who has attained the age of eighteen years, WHO IS A BONA FIDE RESIDENT of the town in which he seeks to be admitted as an elector and who takes such oath, if any, as may be prescribed by law, shall be qualified to be an elector.
      Adopted November 24, 1976.

    • Murphy on December 20, 2011 at 8:54 am

      NH-Jim sorry this a democrat you’re talking about they could care less about the Constitution.

  19. Vizionmusic on December 15, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    I am home recuperating from heart surgery. This morning when I saw this story on WFSB-3,
    I nearly had another heart attack. All I have to say is that DECADES of entrenchment by Liberals in all facets of our society, have eroded people’s thought process as to what IS right/wrong etc. ?Destefano… if I could challenge you to a good ‘old fashioned duo’ ( & those like you )…..I would! We can, will and MUST take our great country back, in 2012! Pray for God’s Mercy that we are able to…?

  20. SeeingRed on December 15, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Haven’t we already lost?? This guy was already elected!? Is that not a sign that it’s too late?? There are more of ‘them’ than ‘us’?? Sure looks that way to me – and also across the country.? From Chicago to the great State of CA to NYC to…the only place it doesn’t flush is in TX.? Maybe they’re on to something….

  21. JBS on December 15, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    Hopefully the CT state legislature will say NO to DeStefano.
    Oh, wait, the CT legislature is controlled by the Democrats!
    There is always SCOTUS.?????????????????? LOL

  22. Tim-in-Alabama on December 15, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    These people just came to this country to vote for the candidates American citizens won’t vote for.

    • Dimsdale on December 15, 2011 at 9:36 pm

      That’s priceless!

  23. JBS on December 15, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    To answer the question of the post: It would not be racist, it would be ethnic or cultural policing. For evil to thrive, it takes only good people to turn a blind eye to that misdeed. New Haven is a test case in our midst. How good citizens respond to this incursion of our citizenship and good name is important. For this leftist folly to perpetuate, we have only to stay silent. In that case, what we do about it is crucial.

    • Dimsdale on December 16, 2011 at 8:53 am

      Agreed.? The only reason there are “sanctuary cities” is that there is no penalty for doing so.? They should be cut off from all state and federal aid until they comply with the law.? With probation.

  24. Shared Sacrifice on December 16, 2011 at 2:14 am

    If we are going to let them vote, we might as well let them run for office…? Maybe DeStefano could be replaced by an illegal alien- cut out the middle man!

    • Lynn on December 16, 2011 at 6:39 am

      HA,HA,HA, Poetic Justice

    • winnie on December 17, 2011 at 12:53 pm

      Sweet, sweet irony…you can only hope for it with certain people/situations.

  25. WagTheDog on December 16, 2011 at 10:40 am

    Can President ‘Arnold’ be close behind?

  26. kipitwic on December 20, 2011 at 8:40 am

    I am stunned by the politcal system in the U.S.? I keep asking what is it they don’t understand about the way this country was established?? Maybe it has to do with the fact that our schools teach what is politically correct instead of teaching our students about our Constitution and American history.? Maybe our politicians missed those classes and that is why they have no respect for our laws.?
    The Mayor of New Haven needs to be removed from office by the voters who are here legally and want our Constitution followed.? If you are here illegally then you should have no rights, regardless of if you pay taxes.? How many of our parents and grandparents have made the sacrifice to come to this country legally?? If they did it, why not those today??
    I am personally tired of paying taxes for the illegals to use our school system, our welfare system, our social security, and our hospitals.? It is time for the citizens to take back America and send all these idiots out of office and those illegals home.? Purge our country!!!1

    • Dimsdale on December 20, 2011 at 4:33 pm

      DeStefano should be tarred and feathered (only because drawing and quartering might be considered a bit over the edge…..? ;-)? )


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