Identification Please

With the November Election just 149 days away the topic of having to show an I.D. prior to
casting a vote has become topic of debate.  I have been asked for my personal ID in several
activities that I conduct through out the day such as:

Driving a Car
Purchasing Adult Beverages
Entrance into Bars
At the Airport
Using a credit card for store purchases
Doctors Appointments
Crossing a Border to either Canada or Mexico
Entering a Casino
Car Rentals
Theme Parks (in my case Universal Theme Park in January)
I had to show my ID when I took my first Introductory Flight Lesson
At a Bank to cash a check where I held no Account
Opening a Bank Account
I have even been asked at Movie Theater to gain entrance to R rated movies

In a recent article posted at The Politico,  Josh Gerstein  speaks
about not only showing your ID, but perhaps how out of touch
Eric Holder is totally unaware of the requirement of showing an ID.

“At a House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing Thursday, Rep. Dan Lungren (R-Calif.) asked Holder about the practice, which has been standard procedure at most, if not all, federal courthouses for the last decade or so.

“If I were to go to the federal courthouse here in D.C., either as a party or as an attorney, wouldn’t I have to show a government-issued photo ID?” Lungren asked.

“That’s not been my experience, here in DC. I don’t–you know,” Holder replied.

“Some federal courts—are you aware that’s required in some federal courts in this land?” Lungren said.

“I don’t know,” Holder replied.

“Is your Justice Department investigating the discriminatory effect of those laws?” Lungren asked, after citing other places where one is told to show ID, like the airport and even when visiting the Justice Department itself.

Lungren’s point was to attack the Justice Department’s actions to block voter ID laws that critics say burden the rights of minorities by preventing or discouraging them from casting ballots.

Holder said Lungren’s comparison was off the mark, because the right to vote is the “most fundamental constitutional right.”

“Through the vote, I can change the government,” Holder noted.

The attorney general also insisted that visitors do not need photo ID to enter Justice Department headquarters. (You’ll certainly be asked for it. Trust me.)

“That’s not true in the government. That’s not true with the Justice Department,” Holder told Lungren. “if you were to show up at the Justice Department somebody could vouch for you and you could come in to the department and we could have a very civil, I’m sure, conversation.”

“Is that right? I havent tried that with TSA. That doesn’t work very well,” Lungren shot back.”

If you need an ID to fly, purchase items, use your credit card or even to enter a building, then why such an issue with showing an ID prior to voting?

The Article at Poltico can be found here: http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/06/eric-holder-unaware-that-court-visitors-must-show-125703.html

TomTGRWolcott

29 Comments

  1. stinkfoot on June 10, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    Is it actual security or just a general sense of security that is being cultivated at great expense- both in terms of monetary capital as well as the less tangible capital of personal liberty??
    ?
    If the MSM were doing its job this clown might be wearing a bright orange jump suit and crushing rock at Leavenworth, Kansas for lying to congress about what he knew about “Fast and Furious” instead of tipping off what a poor judge of character his boss is for appointing him- through his compelling demonstrations of ignorance about the importance of showing ID at the polls.? Then again, if you’re aware that in November, legitimate votes will result in you losing your job…



  2. sammy22 on June 10, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    Maybe not everybody has a picture ID?



    • johnboy111 on June 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm

      some people still use grass clippings to wipe????



    • Eric on June 10, 2012 at 8:56 pm

      In this day and age there’s no excuse for not having a picture ID… and if you’re too ignorant to recognize the need for one then you shouldn’t be voting in the first place!



    • RoBrDona on June 10, 2012 at 9:19 pm

      Everyone except for illegal aliens (yes they really are illegally here) and certain types of criminals that actively wish to remain hidden have a legitimate photo ID in the USA. PERIOD.; There is no discussion. ?



  3. Linda Mae on June 10, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Did you read that Democrats who attended the MA Dem. Convention held in Spfld., MA, needed to show photo ID’s?? Or that it is necessary to9 show a photo ID to meet Michelle O at a book signing???? Apparently, the right to vote is NOT as important as these 2 issues.?



    • stinkfoot on June 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm

      Perhaps Michelle would rather not be signing books for the illegals that the libs seem to want to usher to the polls to neutralize what would otherwise be a popular mandate by legitimate tax paying citizens?



    • JBS on June 11, 2012 at 6:26 am

      Wasn’t there a basketball player (year or so ago) who was excluded from meeting the Zero at the WH because he didn’t have a G.I. photo I.D.?
      Democrats always want it their way.



  4. steve418r on June 10, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Sounds like Colin Powell when he was told that the work performed at his house was by Illegals.



  5. cherwin on June 10, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    The only people who don’t have a picture ID are those people who don’t want one. In other words they are illegal aliens, or hiding from the law.
    Picture ID’s are available for all citizens at the motor?vehicle department.?Even people who don’t drive?can get one, they just don’t have the right to drive with it.
    So there is absolutely no excuse for anyone, who wants to be a legal voting citizen to have a photo ID. All disabled persons have one of these ID’s.
    So unless you are a snake under a rock and you want to vote illegally like go in and out of the voting site and vote more than once, or vote under a dead persons name, or just cheat and lie as so many did in the 2008 election, than all people should be required to show a photo ID–period. No exceptions, no excuses. I never heard of anything so ridiculous in my life. Why are we even asking the question as to?whether or not it should be a requirement.??You? will notice that only the liberals think that it should be OK to vote with?no ID.



  6. Eric on June 10, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Leave it to the democrats to try and make a case for eliminating voter ID laws. ?The only way they can win an election is by stealing it, and the easiest way to steal an election is with fraudulent voting… as we saw the try in the 2000 general election down in FL. ?I’ll lay odds that there’s not one democrat in Congress that doesn’t have a photo ID. ?Hypocrites!



  7. ricbee on June 10, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    Corrupticut started asking for ID’s some years ago & I didn’t like it. But then I thought what’s the big deal? I use my “Carry Permit” for ID wherever I go.



  8. JBS on June 11, 2012 at 6:44 am

    The exchanges between Rep. Dan Lungren (R-Calif.) and Eric Holder (D-) conclusively demonstrates that our supposed Attorney General is willfully lying to Congress. Holder may be out of touch and social elite, but he has held enough positions, public and private to know the procedures for accessing a government building, for example.
    Holder only got his job in the Regime because he is buds with the Zero. And, is one prejudiced Democrat.



    • JBS on June 11, 2012 at 7:22 am

      Democrats feel they need an edge over Republicans. Whether it is casting and counting votes from illegals, dead people or felons, they have this primal need to win at any cost.
      One way that need for an edge manifests itself is when any Democrat is asked a question, their first, conditioned response is to lie. While true that they see the world through a different eye, their interpretation of the world is a lie. A hot day becomes global whatever, if the unemployment number goes up it immediately is seasonally adjusted or, a Regime apparatchik is asked a simple question, his or her first response is dissemble and obfuscate, all through the lens of the Democrat lie. The entire Socialist Democrat philosophy is wholly unsuited for reality.



  9. Sal on June 11, 2012 at 11:19 am

    Growing up I had to get a town id so I could use the swimming pool in town.And recently I had to show id to buy NyQuil .



  10. sammy22 on June 11, 2012 at 11:56 am

    So why don’t we push for a REQUIREMENT that everybody has an ID issued by a government agency (Federal or State, after all this is for electing our Federal or State representatives ). I am sure everyone on this blog would like that.



    • JBS on June 11, 2012 at 12:25 pm

      Yes, I would, Sammy, but the point is moot in Connecticut. To vote, municipal, state or Federal, voters MUST show a valid government issued I. D.
      By everyone having to prove who they are when voting, it would cut down — or eliminate — the number of deceased people, illegals and ineligibles voting. (New Haven might cease to be a sanctuary city!)
      If you have a government issued I. D., just how onerous is that?
      ?



    • winnie on June 12, 2012 at 5:53 am

      Typical.? Instead of just saying, “Everyone must show a photo ID to vote in federal/state elections”, your answer is to push for a REQUIREMENT that everybody has an ID issued by a government agency.?? Overhauling the entire system (like with O care) is just a convoluted distraction from what the real issue is:? Law abiding citizens have NO problem showing an ID to vote in any election.? If someone has the means to prove that they are, in fact, a legal citizen of the US *and* that they are actually a living organism they should be required to hold a photo ID…As Tom pointed out in this post, it’s practically impossible to get through the day without having to show it to someone.? Making all of us who already have a photo ID (whether a driver’s license or a Passport) upgrade to a gov. issued ID is asinine, a waste of money and is hardly addressing the issue of illegal/dead voters.? It’s a head fake.



    • Dimsdale on June 12, 2012 at 11:55 am

      Or worse, make it a requirement to vote!?
      ?
      How come third world nations can manage to control fraud (usually an indelible dye on one’s thumb) and we choose not to?



  11. sammy22 on June 11, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    I am for a national ID card, but many Libertarians may not be. And, CT is is a little-bitty-State. Try to do that in TX or NV or MI or AZ or…..



    • essneff on June 11, 2012 at 10:56 pm

      Sammy, those Libertarians and Cowboys & Cowgirls?in Texas can’t purchase Claritin-D at a CVS?without an ID plus a signature……. surely voting should require?at least the ID?requirement, right? or is that Jim Crow from the the 50s and 60s?



  12. Lynn on June 11, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    When Ludgren asked if I went to a federal courthouse, wouldn’t I have to show a govt. -issued photo ID. In my opinion, Holder made a truthful response, yet it was snide and the definition of parsing the words. Holder’s reponse was,”that’s not been my experience, here in D.C. I DON’T- you know.

    In effect Holder is copping a superior attitude. My contempt for Attny. General Holder, knows No bounds. Personally, I hope he faces contempt charges for his outrageous testimony before
    ?Congress over Fast & Furious.?



  13. ali-t on June 12, 2012 at 6:59 am

    I think CT requiring a photo I.D. is discriminatory… to all those permanently disenfranchised dead people who vote.



  14. WagTheDog on June 12, 2012 at 9:40 am

    Poll exams to show you know what is going on before you vote – eliminated because of discriminatory practices – the illiterate not able? to register.? Yes, there were cases where this was used during the Jim Crow days to keep blacks from voting. But, instead of making sure everyone had the opportunity to take the same exam, the exam was eliminated.? Now having to prove your citizenship and identity is coming under fire – Why not open our elections to the UN and let them decide who our president and representatives be??



  15. sammy22 on June 12, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Hey essneff, you can’t make meth with a paper ballot. On the other hand w/ Claritin-D….. And either everybody gets an ID card it would be a sham.



    • Dimsdale on June 12, 2012 at 11:59 am

      How about just “everyone that chooses to vote gets an ID card”, much like everyone that chooses to drive has to get a driver’s license.?
      ?
      Every choice has consequences, and what you can do with a paper ballot is far more powerful than making meth.



  16. sammy22 on June 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    You call it “chooses”, I call that cherry-picking. As to the power of the ballot I defer to Mark Twain.



    • Dimsdale on June 13, 2012 at 8:47 am

      No, I call it self selecting.? Cherry picking is when someone else does it.? You want to vote, get an ID.? You don’t, then don’t.? Libertarians are satisfied, anti vote fraud people are satisfied.? The lefties don’t want any verification, which fits with the observation that vote fraud seems to be the province of the left, the only logical explanation for why they fight every attempt to curb it.



  17. JBS on June 15, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Sammy22, we already have? — and have had — a national identification number.
    It is called a state issued driver’s license number. Works throughout the USA.
    By the way, Mark Twain was pro-union (“Knights of Labor” Speech and early membership in the ITU). And, Sammy22, Sam L. Clemens (Mark Twain) referred to the legal vote in his Monday Night speeches.
    ?



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