Yes, there are conservative conspiracy-theory nuts out there

I have to laugh, but at least there is zero chance these folks would ever vote for President Obama, so I’ll just make fun of them and move along. The people freaking out about the absolutely normal ammunition purchases by federal law enforcement agencies is officially out of control.

My post went up at 9:39 a.m. ET this morning, but Drudge mentioning it and Tony Lee bringing it up again at Big Government an hour later has just brought out what I’m going to refer to as “the trolls.”

These folks actually think Obama may have some sort of spell on federal law enforcement agents that will result with a revolt against the people of the United States when and if Obama is kicked out of office. From the comments section of the Big Government post … just a taste, and trust me, I did not have to look hard at all to come up with these.

I believe I read that other government agencies were also buying bullets.  Makes me wonder?  Are they fearing of a revolt when Obama declares there won’t be an election.  I know “conspiracy theory”.  But I wouldn’t put it past him.  Thank you founding fathers for the second amendment.

There is something up here and the theory that I heard that seems to be the most credible is that the government is preparing for civil unrest before and after the election and further problems when the economic meltdown occurs that the Fed and others have been warning is coming.

I believe that Obama is moving away from the U.S. Military having all the Guns and Ammo…. that Obama is arming up his own Union Government Employees…. the people who have Obama’s back over that of the Nations back.

174,000 rounds. 295 ‘Special Agents’. That comes to just under 600 rounds per agent. Doesn’t sound like what you need to go out and arrest someone. Sounds like what you need when you are holed up and fear an attack.

I think you may have something here.  There have been hints here and there that Obama may be building a “private army” faithful solely to him.  If so, it would be akin to Hitler’s SA military group that were called the “brown shirts” …

The claims hollow point ammunition is not used for training or qualifying is total bull excrement. The claims ranges do not ever allow hollow point ammunition is total bull excrement. Some ranges have backstops or setups that are not set up for hollow point rounds, or it is a range preference. I just spent a few minutes visiting the websites of at least six different ranges with both indoor and outdoor facilities and not one of them mention a ban on hollow point ammunition, but most mention incendiary, tracer and explosive bullets can not be used. Those are not hollow points.

Again, law enforcement and civilian shooters can easily go through 750 rounds a day during training.

  • There are more than 1,000 Connecticut State Troopers. If they train only five days a year, they can easily go through 2.5 million rounds a year.
  • There are more than 13,000 sworn FBI agents. If they train only five days a year, they can easily go through 32 million rounds a year.
  • There are more than 34,000 New York police officers. If they train only five days a year, they can easily go through 85 million rounds a year.

As for the claims law enforcement would never, ever practice with hollow point rounds, tell me … where are all the orders for the full metal jacket ammunition the law enforcement agencies are using for training? Or maybe the trolls think they are not practicing at all and just saving up for the big election finally?

Look, hollow point rounds are – in general – safer for all those involved except for the intended target since it will expand and not penetrate as far as a full metal jacket round. Interested in some information about self-defense rounds, ballistics, pistols and rifles? Try reading this.

6 replies
  1. JBS
    JBS says:

    Conspiracy theorists abound on every subject. It is particularly difficult to ignore self-styled experts who speak misinformation about a subject you care about. I have to consider the source and the circumstances. I have to ask myself, do I want to expend the energy? Is a conversation even possible?
    Cop-killer bullets and pistols that can pass through airport security are only a few of the galling things I have heard recently. Urban myths. Hollywood and the media don’t help things. Ascribing motive to an ammunition purchase is crazy. It’s Kafkaesque.
    Prejudices are usually born of fear. Some fears are logical and healthy; some are hard to eradicate regardless of evidence or reality. Some people love their misconceptions and will argue hard to keep them.

    • Steve M
      Steve M says:

      “That punk pulled a Glock 7 on me! You know what that is? It’s a porcelain gun made in Germany. It dosen’t show up on your airport X-ray machines, and it cost more than you make here in a month. …” Det. John McClain, 1990.

  2. bryansc
    bryansc says:

    Using the ammo for training purposes makes perfect sense to me. What has me scratching my head though is one report I heard that NOAA bought 100k rounds. What are the weather police investigating that they need to be armed on duty?

    • Steve M
      Steve M says:

      It was a typo or a clerical error …?should?have been listed as ammunition for NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement instead of NWS. Those Fishery cops enforce the fishing laws.

  3. Lynn
    Lynn says:

    Ah but where would we be without conspiracy theories to laugh at. The wingnuts of both sides give me chuckles galore. Crop circles anyone?….

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