Report: Obama administration plans negotiatations with Hamas

If you are willing to talk – which means negotiation – with terrorists, how do you start the conversation? Remember the Hamas charter is quite specific about it’s position on an Israeli state, it should not exist. If the Obama administration wants to negotiate, will Hamas be required to first ditch the language in their own charter?

That would be a precondition.

For those interested, here is some language taken directly from the Hamas charter from August of 1988, from the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas). Reference link one, two.

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it. …

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.

After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying.

Atlas Shrugs provides us with this

Hamas boobytraps civilian homes, boobytrap dolls, fire missiles from schools, use mosques as arsenals, and fire machine guns into a party of Gazan revelers playing music and Obambi is going to talk to these blood hungry neanderthals? Strap yourself in folks …… this lefty maroon is going to get our asses kicked. Big time.

When Obambi was silent on Israel’s self defense I thought it was a low, lefty way to play it. He waited. He waited until he erroneously thought Israel had fired on a school. Only then did the snake slither out with a statement about “the loss of civilian life in Gaza and in Israel being a source of deep concern” for him .[note Gaza first] The thing is, it was Hamas that bombed that school – and Hamas only targets civilian Jews. Jews out their own lives at risk to avoid civilian casualties. Did Obambi address that?

She’s reacting to this article in the UK Guardian.

Obama camp ‘prepared to talk to Hamas’
Incoming administration will abandon Bush’s isolation of Islamist group to initiate low-level diplomacy, say transition sources

The incoming Obama administration is prepared to abandon George Bush’s ­doctrine of isolating Hamas by establishing a channel to the Islamist organisation, sources close to the transition team say.

The move to open contacts with Hamas, which could be initiated through the US intelligence services, would represent a definitive break with the Bush ­presidency’s ostracising of the group. The state department has designated Hamas a terrorist organisation, and in 2006 ­Congress passed a law banning US financial aid to the group.

The Guardian has spoken to three ­people with knowledge of the discussions in the Obama camp. There is no talk of Obama approving direct diplomatic negotiations with Hamas early on, but he is being urged by advisers to initiate low-level or clandestine approaches, and there is growing recognition in Washington that the policy of ostracising Hamas is counter-productive. A tested course would be to start ­contacts through Hamas and the US intelligence services, similar to the secret process through which the US engaged with the PLO in the 1970s. Israel did not become aware of the contacts until much later.

“This is going to be an administration that is committed to negotiating with ­critical parties on critical issues,” the source said.

You have to ask the question. Why bother sitting down – and starting even low-level negotiations – with a group that has so clearly laid out their position?

Allah over at Hot Air has more, and notes the clear distinction between Obama’s statements in April 2008 and the report – from three different sources – that low level talks will be initiated.

Gateway Pundit is thrilled too.

You can not negotiate with evil, and you’re not going to get evil to sit down for an anger management session with Dr. Phil either.

Let The Government Take Care Of The Kids

so … the parents can buy other stuff. This folks is out of control. Parents abdicate … government controls … mindless Americans. This is from “This Week” … Cokie Roberts thinks we need to spend, spend, spend to get us out of the recession and the key is children’s healthcare. No, really.


The Designer Bailout

OK, it’s officially out of control. Bizarre. CNN reporting on the Obama stimulus plan uses a designed retailer as an example of businesses looking for help from Washington. What makes this so bizarre is the owner is looking to the government to help her expand her retail business. The best part is right at the start.


Perhaps because a banks won’t lend in this environment. Perhaps that is wise in this economy. Perhaps that’s not the role of the government. Perhaps that’s how we got in this friggin mess to begin with.

Update: Is Panetta a good fit at CIA?


Probably not if you come from the Mitch Rapp school of action, not appeasement. Some feel that the media should not question Obama appointments, but plenty of questions are being asked concerning Obama’s current selection to lead the CIA, Leon Panetta – including big Democrats.

Update: Jim just let me know that Peter Brookes, former CIA intelligence officer and currently a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, will be on the show tomorrow (Jan. 7).

Update 2: From a former intelligence and security analyst for the CIA:

Director, CIA is not a “learn on the job” kind of position. Without the respect of the people beneath him (which he won’t have without experience in intelligence) it will be difficult for him to have any positive impact.

From Hot Air. …

The US is currently fighting an asymmetrical war on two hot fronts, but more to the point, in every corner of the world. We need our best people at the helm at Defense and in the intelligence arenas, people with insight into the problems and challenges facing America at war. Barack Obama either doesn’t understand that or cares less about security than he does about politics.

Jim Geraghty has six comments about the appointment. …

The CIA is the only government agency where the public expectation is to know everything about everything, from how many tanks Russia could put into Georgia in 24 hours to what is going on in the head of a jihadi in the mountains of Pakistan.

Does Panetta know enough about the intelligence arena? Most doubt it.

John over at Powerline Blog brings up an important factor to the liberal left. They don’t want anyone that had anything to do with – their definition of – torture within ear shot of Obama. They are afraid advisers might let him know that extreme measures actually do provide us with good, actionable intelligence.

Obama preferred someone with intelligence experience, like John Brennan. The problem is that just about everyone who fits that description had, like Brennan, some involvement in devising the intelligence strategies of the last seven years. Those strategies, including but not limited to the interrogation of terrorists, have been spectacularly successful. Normally, participation in them would be a major plus in a candidate for CIA director.

But the Democrats have committed themselves, for political reasons, to harsh criticisms of these and other aspects of the Bush administration’s anti-terror campaign. So Obama had to abandon Brennan’s nomination, and he is now stuck with someone who not only had nothing to do with the Bush administration’s highly successful policies, but was adamantly opposed to them. Panetta fits the necessary political profile, so he will be CIA Director even though he has no experience in intelligence.

Sister Toldja is convinced that it’s a political pay off, pure and simple.

So lemme see here: We’ve got an inexperienced president-elect who has appointed a woman with scant foreign policy experience to the Sec. of State position, and shortly after that, picked two people with virtually no intelligence experience (save a year) as the head of the CIA and director of national intelligence respectively. Sounds like Blair has had a distinguished military career, but just one year experience in the CIA?

Dunno about you, but this gives me so much hope about our future foreign affairs/counterterrorism efforts that I could just burst. /sarc

Since Panetta has to be confirmed, I have an exit question. Has Obama put Panetta into play to employ a reverse strategy? Panetta suites the left since he can go in to clean house and has no ties to previous extreme measures. But if the appointment fails and someone with more experience ends up leading CIA, will the left keep their mouth shut thinking The One tried?

Dodd Review

Great review of the Chris Dodd, Countrywide mortgage fiasco on Face The State on Channel 3 today. Nothing new but it is a very good roundup including Dodd’s promise to release his mortgage papers (6 months ago) and his subsequent denial.



Of all the stupid idiotic things this guy says and gets away with … this was perhaps the highlight of the Sunday Morning Talk shows and, may I say, assures me of another great year on the show.

David Gregory pins Harry Reid down on his ‘o6 comment, “the war is lost.” This little weasel put out soldiers in danger by throwing in the towel. And now he compares himself to General Petraeus.


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