You 53%ers should pay for the “peoples” college education
We are doomed. Charles Cook at National Review caught up with one of the Occupy Wall Street protesters and the result is both comic and depressing … or as Cook puts it, “That being that if there is something someone doesn’t like about their life, someone else somewhere should change it. And if they don’t, well then, the American Dream is dead”
Watch first then read:
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrPGoPFRUdc&feature=player_embedded
Cook writes:
The Amusing Man with the Amusing Sign was included because he had hit perfectly on the inchoate nature of the protests, and on the lack of any serious proposals. And the Vietnamese Immigrant made it up because he showed that there is a real cost to the protests, and one which transcends the police bill. But nothing had prepared me for meeting this gentleman, who wants his college paid for because, well . . . that’s what he wants. He has perfectly articulated a sentiment I have heard repeatedly but was struggling to distill with anything like the clarity he achieved: That being that if there is something someone doesn’t like about their life, someone else somewhere should change it. And if they don’t, well then, the American Dream is dead
Indeed. Please go read it all.
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Like the OWS protesters are “owed?”
Typical righty tactic.
This National Review Online reporter was sent out to find one kid to interview to discredit the whole OWS movement. Wonder how long he spent there??
The right wing media is infiltrating the group, trying to spin the message.
Just like the one Obama supporter who said that she thought Obama would pay her mortgage. They right is still playing that clip for 3 years!!! One lady’s comments!
One of the few articulated coherent demands on the Flea Bag web site has articulated this young man’s request-forgive student loans, and all debt.
RE the mortgage lady clip- she was not the only person to articulate that thought. She just said it best. Why should we not be reminded of the left’s political beliefs on a daily basis?
The left tactics have been learned and employed by the right. And you have an issue with that because……?
No interview I have seen or read has been any more coherent than this one.
“What do we want? WE DON”T KNOW…When do we want it? RIGHT NOW!”
It’s not anecdotal if it is typical, or stereotypical.? Don’t project the leftist tactics on the right.? Besides, if they represent the “99%” of the population, why would they have to “infiltrate” the crowd?? Of course, they weren’t.
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Even the lefty state media can’t come up with a coherent, unified message from this group.? Who has to make anything up?
Crystal,
You accused the right of trying to “spin the message”
What message is the right trying to spin??
The Occupy Wall Street organizers have been intentionally vague with their goals.? Who organizes a protest to decide what to protest?? Have you ever heard such a thing?
The longer they remain vague, the longer folks will continue to identify the protest as being in line with their own agenda.? The protest is a blank slate.? It’s an empty suit.?? This is because the true goal of of the Occupy Wall Street organizers is to have as many bodies in their group as possible.? Every interest group is able to project it’s own interest on the blank slate specifically because the OWS organizers haven’t clearly outlined the group interest.? The anarchists think the protest is about them, the seniors think the protest is about them.? The college kids think the protest is about them.? The minorities think the protest is about them.? etc.?
So how could the right spin a message that doesn’t exist?
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You seem to have an acute ignorance when it comes to the “right wing media”. ?In fact I can’t help but chuckle a bit when I hear the sort of lunacy you’re promoting. ?The only people who have been able to see a coherent message coming out of this group of misfits is Barack Obama and Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz. ?Get a clue crystal4… you’re in over your head!
Ultimate? entitlement mentality on display; inarticulate, unfocused, listless and unwilling to accept responsibility but most of all, selfish.
One lesson these children could learn is that you value most the things you work hardest for.? The intrinsic value of something is directly proportional to the investment you put into it.? I see it every day: students working to pay for college are usually the best students, while the ones whose mommy and daddy pay for college are much more prone to goofing off and partying.? Or “occupying” Wall St.? They have no sense of ownership or investment in their own education.
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Nobody ever washes a rented car.? And nobody should pay for this punk’s education.
Excellent post Dimsdale. ?I couldn’t have said it better myself.
The victim class sees its day in the sun starting to set.?Watch them?march around like little wind up toys chanting incoherent babble along the lines of “don’t taze me – just pay me”. This so called movement is sound and fury signifying nothing, a cadre of intellectual cripples, has beens and never-will-be’s. ??
I agree, he should pay for his own education. But why didn’t Cook seek out someone without this sort of stupid sign? My husband thinks the tea party is a racist group. I have seen handmade signs amongst tea party members with the “n” word on them, but not for one second would I take that to mean the group on a whole is racist. If Cook wanted to find someone with a legitimate gripe, who could back themselves up with facts, I know he could have. But it doesn’t make for good conservative media if he were to do that.
Pretty much all the OWS signs are “stupid”, so this guy was as good as any other.? And just out of curiosity:? do you consider a racist sign one that criticizes Obama’s leadership/policies?? Because the left seems to think any disagreement with O = racism.
Where have you seen racist tea party signs?
Quote Jeremy in Farmington:? Where have you seen racist tea party signs?
Answer: The only place the place they exist….in staged left-media Tea Party coverage being held by one of their own lefty plants! I believe Andrew Breitbart has yet to pay out the $100,000.00 he put up for proof of racism at Tea Party events.
And vice-versa, in staged right-media OWS coverage being held by one of their own righty plants.? Once someone infiltrates it they negate it, don’t you think??? Listen, I know that there is supposed to be this left-right hatred, but I never nor will I ever fall into that.? I know life isn’t all rainbows and unicorns, but it doesn’t have to get down and dirty all the time.? I have had some great conversations with some people in the chatroom on here, and the reason I started listening to Jim in the first place is because my husband was so liberal, that all I ever got was that one side.? Fox is too much for me, and I can understand if MSNBC is too much for others.? I’m just trying to educate myself.? So I listen to Jim, look into both sides claims, and then decide what to believe.?
Good point M1!
Even the Anonymous protests of Scientology and The Lulz Boat had goals, reasons to protest, and motives in doing so, this is just so badly organized for the sake of being organized. This is just like every lefty telling me that because I don’t “get out there and do something” I am not a part of this society or entitled to a political opinion. I, much like that Vietnamese man, have work to do and money to make to live, why do these people fear working for something they can call their own?
Chelly1222…How many tea party rallies have you been to?? I’ve been to 4 or 5 in the past 2 years and the only racist sign I ever saw was being carried by some communist jerk rally infiltrator that said “Tea Party = Racist” (their cleverness never ceases to amaze me).? I have never — and I repeat, NEVER seen a tea party member with a sign that had the word ni**** on it.? The only thing liberals are good for is writing fiction–lousy fiction.? If you’re going to make claims like that, I sure hope you have photographic evidence or links to legit websites that back up what you’re saying.?
For the record, don’t link me to dailykos or huffpo–they’re right up there with wiki as far as trustworthiness goes.
http://15october.net/files/2011/09/15Oq.jpg
Now if this isn’t an appropriate banner for the OWS 10/15 United for Global Change, I don’t know what is.? God knows that by the time these marxist Obama tools get bored & go home, they’ll all smell like buffalo.
Winnie, I have never been to one.? And I’m not sure which websites you consider legit.? So it would be a waste of both of our time if I put down a bunch of links.? People will just say that the pictures were photoshopped, or that the sign was not at a tea party rally.? And this is just the point I am trying to make.? Both sides can go at it all day, and nothing will get accomplished.? There has been at least one known infiltrator of the OWS protests, so it makes it possible that this video was set up.? Just like when there were infiltrators at tea party rallies.? If some liberals were upset at signs held up at those rallies, too bad, because there is no way of knowing if they were planted.?
Trolls trolling trolls isn’t a new concept on the internet, or in real life, and photoshop does exist, so I never really believe what I don’t see for myself with my own eyes. That would mean I’d have to actually go to the rally, and I don’t have time to take away from my job for those sort of things. Funny how real life constrains us, right?
Delta, you made a great point in your first sentence only to follow up with an insult to the people who take the time out of their busy schedules to attend these rallies so that their voices, too, can be heard.? Do you want a medal because you can’t take time away from your job and you see yourself as the only person constrained by “real life”?? Gimme a break.
So, chelly1222, you have never been to a tea party protest, yet you say this?
“I have seen handmade signs amongst tea party members with the ?n? word on them”
hmmmmm.
And you are writing this from your mobile phone while in Manhattan?? And why can’t people agree to disagree?? Both sides put spins on things.? I’ve had debates with some very intelligent people in the chatroom, and they never got nasty.? They seemed to appreciate the fact that I was getting informed.? The way some of the people in this thread have been talking, it’s as though they would much rather sling mud than defend their beliefs.? I don’t get it.
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chelly1222, I did not get nasty with you…I was merely pointing out that there was a contradiction with what you claimed to have seen at tea party rallies and your admission that you have never been to one.? Too many people take what they hear from others/the media and run with it as fact.? If you don’t have links or photographs of tea party protest signs with the “n” word on them, then there really isn’t anything to discuss because your argument is not fact based.?
Please, put up the links.? I am pretty decent at detecting Photoshoppery (I was in on the analysis of the faked Bush TANG letters).
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As for finding someone with a real message in this low grade riot, the state media has been unable to do so as well.? You have to realize that if no one, even those sympathetic to the “protest”, can find someone that understands and can even modestly defend their own signs, than the “one in a million infiltrator” argument is nothing more than a red herring.
Now I can see why the left backs this. Hey while we’re at it lets multiply my SS check by 5 or 10 it’s just Obama stash right?
Just sayin
Oh and Winnie ? That was an insult to buffalo!
Today’s New York Times? food section had an article about Occupy protesters residing at? Zuccotti Park.? They were told their food would be taken care of!? For nearly two weeks the thousands of protesters have had free food- ordered and paid for by unknown entities from California and many other foreign countries…? I doubt they’ll leave the park as clean as a Tea Party group would!
Speaking of “staged” media..all over the web today was a clip of James O’Keefe (you know the pimp) who is a lacky of Andrew Breitbart (you know, the mastermind of ‘clipped videos, umm,, getting Shirley Sherrod fired).
He was walking around in a suit and briefcase saying ‘I’m a banker, I’m a banker”.
LOL , no “violent” footage they could clip and spread to the righty sites, Everyone was nice to him. Some girl even asked him if he would like some of her cake.
So called “staged media” designed to mock the “protest” is pretty far from an “infiltrator”.?? Do you think that O’Keefe made anyone believe he was a banker?? I mean, he looks to be about 20 years old!
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Breitbart was also the “mastermind” that offered $100K for any evidence of your earlier claim of n-word utterances and saliva flinging at Emanuel Cleaver.? I understand he still has his money.? Didn’t he also expose, or help expose, that famous Democrat, Anthony Weiner?
O’Keefe is on probation (he should have been jailed) for breaking into Mary Landrieu’s office and wiretapping her phone…I think this is a violation of that probation.
Breitbart ‘s assets must be frozen as the lawsuit by Sherrod is coming up.
My plan…I will go to the next tea party holding a sign saying “I am a commie/marxist/socialist” and see if I get offered any cake.
Your facts on O’Keefe are completely wrong.
There was an infiltrator at the Air and Space Museum in D.C. over the weekend.? He’s an editor for American Spectator.? And he openly wrote about it.?
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Surely, he was chided and stopped by the OWS crowds in the same way that Dem infiltrators were confronted at TEA parties, right?
Does someone attending a protest to educate themselves and others as to what the ‘other side’ is up to make them an “infiltrator” or an “observer”?? I’m going with the latter, especially if they follow up with an article describing what they observed.? Maybe if more people who run around calling the Tea party people “raaaaaaaacists” actually went to a rally, they could do some observing themselves.? Whatever.? The chasm between the two sides (Tea Party/OWS) is so deep and wide now—mostly because some ignoramus in the media or a politician decided to compare the two…
I suppose when the OWS brats come up with a solid message, then we could have an intelligent debate on the differences.? “Pay for my college” is a patently ridiculous demand from a spoiled child.
Yes, it’s a waste of time teaching our children about the opportunity that comes from hard work when we could be teaching them that they are “special”–like the parents of the protesters did.
Yikes, this OWS is really feeding the right -wing freak out machine!
It appears that all the “freaking out” is being done by the deluded crowds in this “protest”.
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Now if they could just figure out what they are freaking out about…..
I think you know…the bottom line to all the frustration is a government that no longer represents the citizens of the US. That’s why I keep saying it is like the original Tea Party-that was their message.?
Public financing for campaigns. Only way we can get rid of the the current corporate- owned pols (Republicans and democrats).
Bingo!? Now we are coming together!? Politicians think of themselves first, party second, the groups they have to pay back for their support third, and the voters they purport to represent a distant fourth.
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Now we need to convince the lost souls out there in the parks!