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		<title>Krugman: You can call em death panels but they&#8217;ll save us money</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Vicevich</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Ed at HotAir would say, &#8220;Nuance&#8221;. Fabulously lefty liberal Nobel prize economist Paul Krugman tells the lefty leaning panel on This Week that those &#8220;Death Panels&#8221; have been mischaracterized to... <span class="meta-more"><a href="http://radioviceonline.com/krugman-you-can-call-em-death-panels-but-theyll-save-us-money/">Read more &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Ed at <a href="http://hotair.com">HotAir</a> would say, &#8220;Nuance&#8221;. Fabulously lefty liberal Nobel prize economist Paul Krugman tells the lefty leaning panel on This Week that those &#8220;Death Panels&#8221; have been mischaracterized to scare people &#8230; but in fact in the long run will save us money on ineffective care.<span id="more-22357"></span></p>
<p>He is of course <a href="http://radioviceonline.com/a-letter-from-congress-and-the-president-to-medicare-health-care-recipients/">referring</a> to The Medicare Advisory Panel which has ultimate say in what types of procedures and drugs are covered, and oh by the way, <a href="http://radioviceonline.com/the-health-care-medicare-advisory-board-that-can-not-be-challenged/">can&#8217;t be challenged</a>. Krugman doesn&#8217;t see too much wrong with this panel &#8230; because, hey, they&#8217;ll save us money.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">First notice the qualifiers <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/week-transcript-wh-sr-adviser-valerie-jarrett/story?id=10210079&amp;page=4">Krugman uses</a>, willing to accept that the panel is right, and thus by denying ineffective treatment, it will save money.</p>
<blockquote><p>PAUL KRUGMAN, NEW YORK TIMES: Think about people on the right. They&#8217;re simultaneously screaming, they&#8217;re going to send all of the old people to death panels and it&#8217;s not going to save any money. That&#8217;s a contradictory point of view.</p>
<p>TAPPER: Death panels would save money, theoretically.</p>
<p>KRUGMAN: <strong>The advisory path has the ability to make more or less binding judgments on saying this particular expensive treatment actually doesn&#8217;t do any good medically and so we&#8217;re not going to pay for it. That is actually going to save quite a lot of money. </strong>We don&#8217;t know how much yet. The CBO gives it very little credit. But most of the health care economists I talk to think it&#8217;s going to be a really major cost saving. I have to say, I&#8217;m wearing an FDR tie in honor of the fact that we have gone from the New Deal to the Big Biden Deal, I guess we&#8217;re allowed to say.</p>
<p>TAPPER: Big bleeping deal?</p>
<p>KRUGMAN: Yes.</p>
<p>TAPPER: Peggy?</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: left;">It seems so benign, does it not? But just who decides the treatment is ineffective? A panel of bureaucrats who will decide what care will be covered and what will be denied. It&#8217;s not like <a href="http://radioviceonline.com/obamacare-thugs-come-to-hartford/">Medicare</a> denies much now. Hey, it&#8217;s a cost saver.</p>
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		<title>Robert Reich tells the truth about the &#8220;government option&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Vicevich</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is courtesy of Hot Air, but since it drove the show for the first 90 minutes &#8230; I wanted you to see it for yourself. From Verum Serum, Robert... <span class="meta-more"><a href="http://radioviceonline.com/robert-reich-tells-the-truth-about-the-government-option/">Read more &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is courtesy of <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/09/videos-robert-reich-on-public-options-now-and-then/">Hot Air,</a> but since it drove the show for the first 90 minutes &#8230; I wanted you to see it for yourself.<span id="more-16909"></span></p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.verumserum.com/?p=9040">Verum Serum</a>, Robert Reich, from a 2007 speech at Berkley (I know. I know) where he decides to play the role of a politician, actually a Democrat Politician &#8230; and tells the truth about Government Run Health Care. Remember &#8230; this is all Dr. Reich.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Ironic, don&#8217;t you think? Why Jim, why ironic? Well &#8230; remember that looney Congressman from Florida &#8230; the one who got his <a href="http://radioviceonline.com/fact-check-45000-die-because-they-lack-insurance-not-so-muc/">facts wrong</a>? The one who said it was Republicans that want you to die. Congressman Grayson &#8230; that&#8217;s your cue!</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Oh &#8230; and guess who is holding a <a href="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/10/die-quickly-dem-coward-who-compared-us.html">townhall</a> &#8230; for invested guests only. Courage my man, courage!</p>
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