Comments on: More climate e-mails – courtesy the CRU http://radioviceonline.com/more-climate-e-mails-courtesy-th-cru/ The blog home of The Jim Vicevich Show Thu, 24 May 2012 20:46:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Dimsdale http://radioviceonline.com/more-climate-e-mails-courtesy-th-cru/comment-page-1/#comment-7171 Dimsdale Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:00:00 +0000 http://radioviceonline.com/?p=18413#comment-7171 Sammy, you are making precisely the argument that the AGW fanatics have been making: if you are a "denier", you are wrong, regardless of the evidence to the contrary.  The presumption that today's climate is the "correct" one is laughable if you look at paleoclimatology.   Censorship has no place in science.  Peer review is supposed to be analytical, not political.  These emails prove that there is a concerted effort to "fix" the review process the same way they fixed the data.   Taking government money makes you beholden to the government. Sammy, you are making precisely the argument that the AGW fanatics have been making: if you are a "denier", you are wrong, regardless of the evidence to the contrary.  The presumption that today's climate is the "correct" one is laughable if you look at paleoclimatology.

 

Censorship has no place in science.  Peer review is supposed to be analytical, not political.  These emails prove that there is a concerted effort to "fix" the review process the same way they fixed the data.

 

Taking government money makes you beholden to the government.

]]> By: sammy22 http://radioviceonline.com/more-climate-e-mails-courtesy-th-cru/comment-page-1/#comment-7146 sammy22 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:19:00 +0000 http://radioviceonline.com/?p=18413#comment-7146 I could be mistaken, but it seems to me you are saying everybody who has a different position than your is wrong (regardless of evidence), and that unlike you, others are in the brainwashing business. I could be mistaken, but it seems to me you are saying everybody who has a different position than your is wrong (regardless of evidence), and that unlike you, others are in the brainwashing business.

]]> By: Stop it … stop saying Global Warming isn’t settled. | Radio Vice Online http://radioviceonline.com/more-climate-e-mails-courtesy-th-cru/comment-page-1/#comment-7138 Stop it … stop saying Global Warming isn’t settled. | Radio Vice Online Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:34:13 +0000 http://radioviceonline.com/?p=18413#comment-7138 [...] I am telling you folks, it’s a religion to these guys, Global Warming. The e-mails detailing how contrary opinions are being buried and data is being supressed, and added to “trick” the world. Forget that. It’s all about the religion. There are more here. [...] [...] I am telling you folks, it’s a religion to these guys, Global Warming. The e-mails detailing how contrary opinions are being buried and data is being supressed, and added to “trick” the world. Forget that. It’s all about the religion. There are more here. [...]

]]> By: mynoc3 http://radioviceonline.com/more-climate-e-mails-courtesy-th-cru/comment-page-1/#comment-7139 mynoc3 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:44:42 +0000 http://radioviceonline.com/?p=18413#comment-7139 I think the argument is irrelevant.  This is too big to fail, and I will prove it.  Let's say this is false.  The belief in this would constitute a religion.  Our congress has passed numberous laws and given funding to many organizations based on this belief.  This is now all unconstitiution as they have been funding and passing laws in favor of a religion.  Jobs would be lossed and many laws can now be reversed.  In the long run it will be easier to pretend the truth never came out. I think the argument is irrelevant.  This is too big to fail, and I will prove it.  Let's say this is false.  The belief in this would constitute a religion.  Our congress has passed numberous laws and given funding to many organizations based on this belief.  This is now all unconstitiution as they have been funding and passing laws in favor of a religion.  Jobs would be lossed and many laws can now be reversed.  In the long run it will be easier to pretend the truth never came out.

]]> By: Steve McGough http://radioviceonline.com/more-climate-e-mails-courtesy-th-cru/comment-page-1/#comment-7134 Steve McGough Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:38:01 +0000 http://radioviceonline.com/?p=18413#comment-7134 Hah! The difference is I'm not out there demanding carbon taxes, carbon credits and destroying the economy. The problem as I see it is it's not possible to come up with good data to determine what has happened with the world over the past 50 year let alone 1,000 years. Who are we - or any scientist - to say what the "right" temperature is for the earth. Total vanity to think so. The <strong>leaders</strong> of the AGW movement have just been caught screwing with data to meet a political end. At least you say IF and MAYBE - therefore, I don't think we need to destroy the United States economy on what's best described as a SWAG - swinging wild ass guess. Nor am I brainwashing little kids saying polar bears are almost gone. Hah! The difference is I'm not out there demanding carbon taxes, carbon credits and destroying the economy. The problem as I see it is it's not possible to come up with good data to determine what has happened with the world over the past 50 year let alone 1,000 years. Who are we – or any scientist – to say what the "right" temperature is for the earth. Total vanity to think so. The leaders of the AGW movement have just been caught screwing with data to meet a political end. At least you say IF and MAYBE – therefore, I don't think we need to destroy the United States economy on what's best described as a SWAG – swinging wild ass guess.

Nor am I brainwashing little kids saying polar bears are almost gone.

]]> By: sammy22 http://radioviceonline.com/more-climate-e-mails-courtesy-th-cru/comment-page-1/#comment-7133 sammy22 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:26:33 +0000 http://radioviceonline.com/?p=18413#comment-7133 I suggets that the argument about propaganda cuts both ways ( Steve, don't you propangandize?). Sources that I have consulted indicate without much doubt that the global temperature has been increasing over the past century or so. There may be other sources  that say different. I rather lean toward believing actual recorded data than politicized arguments. If the planet it getting warmer, there may be consequences and maybe humans have something to do with it. I suggets that the argument about propaganda cuts both ways ( Steve, don't you propangandize?). Sources that I have consulted indicate without much doubt that the global temperature has been increasing over the past century or so. There may be other sources  that say different. I rather lean toward believing actual recorded data than politicized arguments. If the planet it getting warmer, there may be consequences and maybe humans have something to do with it.

]]> By: Steve McGough http://radioviceonline.com/more-climate-e-mails-courtesy-th-cru/comment-page-1/#comment-7116 Steve McGough Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:47:19 +0000 http://radioviceonline.com/?p=18413#comment-7116 Nobody knows how to respond to your comments sammy22. This is not a "win" for climate change skeptics/conservatives or a "loss" for the climate change alarmists. I don't look at it that way. I'm all for finding the <strong>truth</strong>, and the "truth" reported by groups - and the CRU is one of the leaders - sounding the alarm about rising sea levels and extreme weather has not been truth, rather propaganda to brainwash people and kids. It's about the power, control, self-importance of people and vanity. Anything to take away our liberty and freedom. Yes, I think it is all connected. I'm not one to dump my used motor oil in the street sewer or leave lights on for no reason, but I personally think it is the ultimate in vanity to think humans can "change" the climate of this great planet. Nobody knows how to respond to your comments sammy22. This is not a "win" for climate change skeptics/conservatives or a "loss" for the climate change alarmists. I don't look at it that way.

I'm all for finding the truth, and the "truth" reported by groups – and the CRU is one of the leaders – sounding the alarm about rising sea levels and extreme weather has not been truth, rather propaganda to brainwash people and kids. It's about the power, control, self-importance of people and vanity. Anything to take away our liberty and freedom. Yes, I think it is all connected.

I'm not one to dump my used motor oil in the street sewer or leave lights on for no reason, but I personally think it is the ultimate in vanity to think humans can "change" the climate of this great planet.

]]> By: Dimsdale http://radioviceonline.com/more-climate-e-mails-courtesy-th-cru/comment-page-1/#comment-7107 Dimsdale Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:15:55 +0000 http://radioviceonline.com/?p=18413#comment-7107 Chapter Two of the Gore Tour: "Inconvenient Emails".    The "hockey stick" is pointing downward, just like support for the AGW fanatics.   LOLOL! Chapter Two of the Gore Tour: “Inconvenient Emails”.    The “hockey stick” is pointing downward, just like support for the AGW fanatics.   LOLOL!

]]> By: sammy22 http://radioviceonline.com/more-climate-e-mails-courtesy-th-cru/comment-page-1/#comment-7113 sammy22 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:44:24 +0000 http://radioviceonline.com/?p=18413#comment-7113 This issue is a definite winner for conservatives. This issue is a definite winner for conservatives.

]]> By: sammy22 http://radioviceonline.com/more-climate-e-mails-courtesy-th-cru/comment-page-1/#comment-7102 sammy22 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:34:51 +0000 http://radioviceonline.com/?p=18413#comment-7102 I am getting more distressed by the minute. I am getting more distressed by the minute.

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