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	<title>Comments on: How $15 co-pays destroyed the health care system</title>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
		<link>http://radioviceonline.com/how-15-co-pays-destroyed-the-health-care-system/comment-page-1/#comment-7806</link>
		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As events are proving, Democrats are more idiotic than other politicians.  Any party, given sufficient majorities, abuses the power.  Absolute power corrupting absolutely.  The Democrats, unfortunately, have shown themselves to be head and shoulder above the more common political criminal class, but demonstrably ignoring public sentiment or input, and ramming through programs based on their ideologies.  Particularly disgusting is the way they are attempting to bind future Congresses with their current excesses.
 
The Democrats are bordering on tyrannical rule, which is masked only by their hypocrisy, corruption and opacity in their backroom conniving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As events are proving, Democrats are more idiotic than other politicians.  Any party, given sufficient majorities, abuses the power.  Absolute power corrupting absolutely.  The Democrats, unfortunately, have shown themselves to be head and shoulder above the more common political criminal class, but demonstrably ignoring public sentiment or input, and ramming through programs based on their ideologies.  Particularly disgusting is the way they are attempting to bind future Congresses with their current excesses.<br />
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The Democrats are bordering on tyrannical rule, which is masked only by their hypocrisy, corruption and opacity in their backroom conniving.</p>
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		<title>By: sammy22</title>
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		<dc:creator>sammy22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If politicians are idiots, than what difference does it make if they are Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives, Libertarian or even Communists? So countries like ours are run by idiots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If politicians are idiots, than what difference does it make if they are Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives, Libertarian or even Communists? So countries like ours are run by idiots?</p>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You tapped into some of the fundamental problems that makes communism unworkable: you don&#039;t own anything or have a very small stake in its success (nobody ever washed a rented car); secondly, if you think it is free, you tend to hoard.  It is wired into our brains; third, 5 year plans or 50 year plans notwithstanding, government can&#039;t run anything (see social &quot;security&quot;).  They can create infrastructure, but they can&#039;t maintain it; fourth, politicians are idiots, and nepotism exacerbates the problem (see Patrick Kennedy).
 
Why are we repeating the mistakes of others with the expectation that we will be able to do it better, in the face of human nature?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You tapped into some of the fundamental problems that makes communism unworkable: you don&#8217;t own anything or have a very small stake in its success (nobody ever washed a rented car); secondly, if you think it is free, you tend to hoard.  It is wired into our brains; third, 5 year plans or 50 year plans notwithstanding, government can&#8217;t run anything (see social &#8220;security&#8221;).  They can create infrastructure, but they can&#8217;t maintain it; fourth, politicians are idiots, and nepotism exacerbates the problem (see Patrick Kennedy).<br />
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Why are we repeating the mistakes of others with the expectation that we will be able to do it better, in the face of human nature?</p>
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		<title>By: How $15 co-pays destroyed the health care system &#124; Radio Vice Online &#124; Health Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>How $15 co-pays destroyed the health care system &#124; Radio Vice Online &#124; Health Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Erik Blazynski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Blazynski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the intelligence and lack of partisanship in this post.
I have been saying this all along. A good analogy would be that if your employer gave you food insurance, and you need only pay a $20 co pay and you could buy what you want for the week. Hot dogs would not likely exist, filet mignon and lobster would be in high demand and thus the price would be justifiably inflated. The problem with health care is that everyone is spending someone else&#039;s money.  In the food analogy you solve the inefficient market problem by ending the subsidy, suddenly the market operates efficiently, as it does today.  So people should stop using the stupid car insurance analogy and adopt this one. It is an example of market efficiency, NOT insurance.
So if you follow the analogy you will see that government subsidy will NOT fix the problem, it is exactly the opposite thing that will fix the problem. They should be requiring higher co-pays and greater participation. There is no price discovery in the current process if you ask how much it costs to fix a broken arm they can not and will not tell you. If you knew you might suck it up and go to a different hospital to save a thousand dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the intelligence and lack of partisanship in this post.<br />
I have been saying this all along. A good analogy would be that if your employer gave you food insurance, and you need only pay a $20 co pay and you could buy what you want for the week. Hot dogs would not likely exist, filet mignon and lobster would be in high demand and thus the price would be justifiably inflated. The problem with health care is that everyone is spending someone else&#8217;s money.  In the food analogy you solve the inefficient market problem by ending the subsidy, suddenly the market operates efficiently, as it does today.  So people should stop using the stupid car insurance analogy and adopt this one. It is an example of market efficiency, NOT insurance.<br />
So if you follow the analogy you will see that government subsidy will NOT fix the problem, it is exactly the opposite thing that will fix the problem. They should be requiring higher co-pays and greater participation. There is no price discovery in the current process if you ask how much it costs to fix a broken arm they can not and will not tell you. If you knew you might suck it up and go to a different hospital to save a thousand dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Cicely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cicely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just received this e-mail from CT Citizens for Immigration Control:  
 
January 16th appears to be an excellent day for Tea Party supporters, Pro Life, Senior Citizens and other to protest against the massive invasion of personal liberty with a socialized medical scheme.  CT Patriots will meet on Jan 4 at Denny&#039;s, West Haven, 6:30PM to plan.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just received this e-mail from CT Citizens for Immigration Control: <br />
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January 16th appears to be an excellent day for Tea Party supporters, Pro Life, Senior Citizens and other to protest against the massive invasion of personal liberty with a socialized medical scheme.  CT Patriots will meet on Jan 4 at Denny&#8217;s, West Haven, 6:30PM to plan.<br />
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